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Tror dere han var ljuger? Han har jo ljugd om så mye rart at det egentlig ikke hadde forundret meg.

Så, er presidenten av USA en feiging?
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Les "Stupid white Men" av Michael Moore, og du får svaret... Bush er og blir en slask.

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Det er jo litt merkelig at ingen skulle huske han fra militærtida, da han jo var en halvkjendis, eller sønn av en halvkjendis på den tida også.

Hvis han hadde brukt bekjentskapene til faren for å snike seg unna militæret er det feigt og urettferdig, men hvis han hadde nekta militæret pga Vietnamkrigen e.l hadde det stått respekt av mannen.
Mange som anberfaler at jeg leser den, ja! Kanskje jeg skal gjøre det. Hørt mye snakk om valg triksinga hans osv. Michael Moore er genial

Bush mot krig I do not comply
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Dessuten kan det nevnes at mens han dasset rundt i texas, var det en viss krig på gang i et visst østasiatisk land, hvor noen visse tusen soldater fra et visst land møtte en viss død. En viss senator's sønn slapp å reise til dette landet. Hmm. Hvorfor? Fyren var jo pilot (visstnok), og piloter var det jo neppe nok av?

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no senator's son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no,


(Fortunate son, Creedence Clearwater Revival)
Jaggu fikk jeg ikke post fra mailinglista til Michael Moore akkurat nå. Langt og bitende ironisk brev til George Bush :

An Open Letter from Michael Moore to George "I'm a War President!" Bush



February 11, 2004 (67th anniversary of the Great Flint Sit-Down Strike)

Dear Mr. Bush,

Thank you for providing the illegible Xeroxed partial payroll sheets (or whatever they were) yesterday covering a few of your days in the National Guard. Now we know that, not only didn't you complete your tour of duty, you were actually paid for work you never did. Did you cash those checks? Wouldn't that be, um, illegal?

Watching the press aggressively demand the truth from your press secretary -- and refusing to accept the deceit, the dodging, and the cover-up -- was a sight to behold, something we really haven't seen since you took office (to watch or listen to the entire press conference, or to read the full transcript, go here).

More than one reporter pointed out that those pieces of paper your press secretary waved at them yesterday mean nothing. Even if they aren't forged documents, getting paid does not necessarily mean you showed up to do your duties. As retired Army Col. Dan Smith, a 26-year veteran, told the AP:



"Pay records don't mean anything except that you're in or you're out," said Smith. "It doesn't necessarily reflect what duty you've actually performed because pay records simply record your unit of assignment and then all of your pay and benefits per pay period."

Mr. Bush, this issue is not going to go away -- and I think yesterday's actions just dug you into a deeper hole. You're probably wondering why the heck this story won't just die. You probably thought that after I brought it up last month and then got slammed by Peter Jennings for uttering the "d" word, the whole matter would just disappear as fast as bag of blow being thrown out the window of a speeding car on a deserted Maine highway.

But your "desertion" didn't go away -- and here's the reason why. You have sent countless numbers of our sons and daughters in the National Guard to their deaths in the last 11 months. You did this while misleading their parents and the nation with bogus lies about weapons of mass destruction and scary phony Saddam ties to al Qaeda. You sent them off to a never-ending war so that your benefactors at Halliburton and the oil companies could line their pockets. And then you had the audacity to prance around in a soldier's uniform on an aircraft carrier proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" -- while the cameras from your re-election campaign ad agency rolled.

THAT is what makes this whole business of you being AWOL so despicable, and makes the grief-stricken relatives want to turn away from you in disgust. The reason your skipping-out on your enlistment didn't matter in the 2000 election was because we were not at war. Being stuck in a deadly, daily quagmire now in 2004 makes your military history-fiction and your fly-boy costume VERY relevant.

You still have not answered the questions surrounding your National Guard "service." Let me repeat them as simply as I can for you (all of them based on the investigative work of the Associated Press and the Boston Globe):

1. How were you able to jump ahead of 500 other applicants to get into the Texas Air National Guard, thus guaranteeing you would not have to go to Vietnam? What calls did your father (who was then a United States Congressman representing Texas) make on your behalf for you to get this assignment?

2. Why were you grounded (not allowed to fly) after you either failed your physical or failed to take it in July 1972? Was there a reason you were afraid to take the physical? Or, did you take it and not pass it? If so, why didn't you pass it? Was it the urine test? The records show that, after the Guard spent years and lots of money training you to be a pilot, you never flew for the rest of your time in the Guard. Why?

3. Can you produce one person who can verify that he served with you in the Guard during the year that your Texas commanders said you did not show up? Why have you failed to bring forth anyone who served with you in the Guard while you were in Alabama? Why hasn't ONE SINGLE PERSON come forward?

4. Can you tell us what you did when you claim to have shown up in Alabama for Guard duty? What were you duties? You were grounded, so what did they have you do instead?

5. Where are the sign-up sheets that would have your name and service number on them for each weekend you showed up? Aaron Brown on CNN told us how, when he was in the reserves, he had to sign in each time he reported, and his guest from the Washington Post said, that's right, and there would be "four copies of that record" in the files of various agencies. Will you ask those agencies to release those records?

6. If you were in fact paid for that time when you apparently went AWOL, will you authorize the IRS to release your 1972-73 tax returns?



7. How did you get an honorable discharge? What strings were pulled? Who called who?

Look, I'm sorry to have put you through all this. I was just goofing around when I made that comment about wanting to see a debate between the general and the deserter. I had no idea that it would lead to this. And there you were, having to suffer through Tim Russert on Sunday, saying weird things like "I'm a war president!" I guess you believe that, or you want us to believe that. Americans have never voted out a Commander-in-Chief during a war. I guess that's what you're hoping for. You need the war.

But we don't. And our troops in the National Guard don't either. I know you see the writing on the wall, so why not come clean now? We are a forgiving people, and though you will not be returned to White House, you will find us grateful for a little bit of truth. Answer our questions, apologize to the nation, and bring our kids home.

Yours,

Michael Moore
Chickenhawk n.
A person enthusiastic about war, provided someone else fights it; particularly when that enthusiasm is undimmed by personal experience with war; most emphatically when that lack of experience came in spite of ample opportunity in that person’s youth.
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Vart mektig imponert av Micheal Moore etter å ha sett "Bowling for Columbine", men det varte ikkje lenge.

Såg eit par av programma hans, "The Awful truth", og var skuffa.
Han oppfører seg som ein dust, lager show av alt mulig drit. Det vart for dumt. Han legger skylda på det han vil legge skylda på.

Har ikkje lest nokon av bøkene hans, så eg veit eg ikkje kan utale meg skikkelig i saken. Ikkje bli for provoserte.
Bush er en hatet mann, og det er forståelig.

Les denne: http://www.squall.co.uk/squall.cfm/ses/sq=0/ct=5

Og ikke et vondt ord om Michael Moore - han har mye bra å komme med!
Michael Moore er en skarp og artig person, men vil dere ha harde facts les "The best democracy money can buy" av Greg Palast. Anbefalt lesing.
Er litt rart at absolutt _INGEN_ kan huske å ha sett han der det siste året, ingen kamerater eller offiserer kan huske å ha sett han der i det hele tatt. Men det hvite hus står på sitt, ville jo tross alt tatt seg dårlig ut de ikke gjorde noe i det hele tatt.
Ja det er jo veldig rart at ingen husker han. Klart de støtter han, de må jo det; han er jo president! Er jo flere sånne eksempel, om du leste linken min i en tidligere post i dette emnet så er jo for eksempel hans førerkort historikk i delstaten Texas forsvunnet. Han ble jo tatt for fyllekjøring, det er noe alle vet, men det er helt sikkert mer siden papirene er forsvunnet på "mystisk" vis.

Og så nektet han å avlegge dopingprøve når han skulle inn i forcen. Litt mistenksomt da..